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seen the documentary. i found it fascinating. i consider you certainly one in a list of pioneers. i think you're very brave in sharing this and really appreciate you being on tonight. >> thank you, jeff. >> cnn presents "her name was steven." it debuts tomorrow saturday march 18th at 8:00 and airs again at 11:00 p.m. eastern. time for anderson cooper and "ac 360." jeff, thanks so much. tonight the big "360" interview. chaz bono was born chastity bono, daughter of sonny & cher. one year ago chaz began hormone therapy, this fall had surgery. tonight in a rare interview he talks about life as a man and transformation that has changed his gender. a brazen case of health care fraud at the world's largest pharmaceutical company. if a person had done what this company did they would have locked him up and thrown away the key. when you're a multibillion dollar company you get special treatment. later, a battle in texas to rewrite history. conservatives say school textbooks are too liberal.
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they've nixed thomas jefferson. what else will go? first up, an amazing transmor face. susan stanton was on larry king talking about her transition from male to female. tonight, another transformation that can one year ago for chaz bono. in the 1970s chastity appeared with her parents sonny & cher on chase. chastity is back in the spotlight, this time as chaz. first, though, gary tuchman takes an up close look at the transformation. >> reporter: today his name is chaz bono. but back then she was chastity bono. not just her parent's sweetheart, but an american sweetheart. ♪ babe, i got you babe >> reporter: sonny & cher's show was a hit for years. their daughter's appearances weren't just cute. they were often funny. >> you can be a good little angel or you can be a naughty little devil. >> i want to be a naughty.
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>> when you saw little chastity on the sonny&cher show she was the model of cuteness. here's this toe-headed little blond, chubby cheek girl brought on stage. mom and dad are singing. you know, the model of the happy showbiz family. >> reporter: as years went by chastity bono went through personal turmoil. at the age of 18 she told her parents she was a lesbian. her mom, surprisingly to many, took the news poorly. cher appeared on the front of a gay and lesbian magazine declaring shefls a proud mother of a lesbian daughter. sonny became a republican congressman from california and in 1998 died in a skiing accident. his daughter was at his funeral. >> at the time sonny died in the ski accident chaz, then chastity, was estranged from him. their differences were political, not personal. it was because of sonny's stance
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on certain gay issues. ironically, sonny seemed to be much more comfortable with chastity when she came out, seemed to on a personal level be able to be much more accepting of it than cher was. ♪ >> reporter: over the years she sang and wrote music for a rock band called ceremony. she has also written two books. then in 2009 she began the process of gender transition. >> chaz has given very little specific information about the actual procedure. we know that he's had a mastecto mastectomy. we know been taking the proper hormo hormones, know he had a hysterectomy for unrelated reasons in the past, know that he's living completely as a man. know he started shaving for the first time. >> reporter: chaz bono says he feels happiness and a sense of peace. his life evolving over the years far more dramatically than most. gary tuchman, cnn, atlanta. the first half of my
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interview with chaz aired last night. watch it on our website at ac360.com. here's part two of the big "360 interview." you say this has been a long journey. when did you -- a lot of transgendered people who i've talked to have said from the earliest memories they had some of these feelings. when did you start to think, wait a minute, there's something else going on here? >> well, really as far back as i have memory i felt there was something different about me and i, you know, felt like one of the guys. i mean, my friends were all boys when i was little and i just felt like one of them. and then, you know, when puberty hits it gets really confusing and, you know, for me i just, at that point, you know, realized i had a physical attraction to women and just kind of, you know, went with the obvious i must be a less bbian and a took
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quite a number of years to realize, you know, that wasn't the case. that, in fact, i was transgendered. >> and gender identity has nothing to do with sexuality. >> no, not at all. nothing whatsoever. >> i think a lot of people equate the two, but i mean, while you had attractions to women, you were -- and you're now dating a woman. it's as a man. so you would no longer say, obviously, that you're lesbian. you would say that you're transgender male, male heterosexual, correct? >> absolutely. yes. the two really don't have anything to do with each other. there are transgendered people who are heterosexual. there are transgendered people who are gay, bisexual, everything. the two -- they're two very separate issues. >> we're going to have more with my interview with chaz bono in a moment. join the live chat at ac360.com. also ahead tonight, what happened in texas today that could change what your child learns at school no matter where
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you live. the raw politics in the classroom coming up.
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more now with my conversation with chaz bono. a lot of people remember him as chastity bono, the little girl who shared the stage with her parents sonny & cher. a year ago chastity became chaz. chaz talked about the transm transformation and his life-long quest for authenticity. there has got to be a ton of challenges. what has been the most difficult part of this transition? >> you know, the difficult part of transitioning was all the work i had to do beforehand to get comfortable enough to start my transition. knowing that there was no way i would be able to take this journey privately. and so, you know, it took me, i think, longer than a lot of people to get comfortable enough with myself and feel comfortable enough with the people in my life to be able to do this in the public eye.
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>> that's got to be a whole other level of concern. i mean, most people who make this transition don't have that -- that's not part of the equation. do you plan to continue more? i mean, with transitioning? is there more for you to do? i mean, a lot of people don't decide -- they stop with top surgery. a lot of people transition from female to male. >> exactly. there's no, you know, there's no kind of, like, necessary finish line or you don't get the spike, you know, the touch the ball in the end zone. it's just, i will be on male hormones for the rest of my life and, you know, i will continue to kind of masculinize as time goes on. again, it's been a fairly short period of time and, you know, the whole process is really about four or five years that you're, you know, changing in significant ways.
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and, you know, as far as, you know, any bottom surgery, that's something that i don't really feel comfortable talking about. >> what do you want people to know? i mean, a lot of people i know who have transitioned kind of want to blend in or pass and not be a transgendered activist or not be known as a transgender male or transgender female. obviously you're in the public eye. you didn't have that public choice, but what do you want people to know? >> man, you know, i don't -- i don't know what exactly i want. i mean, look, i've been an activist within the lgbt community for a long time. what i want is equal rights and for people to understand that though there are, you know, some difference, you know, that's okay. diversity is something that's a part of nature and, you know, there is nothing wrong with this. you know, the thing that's frustrating is people who judge this issue is people who don't
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have -- have it. these are people who feel comfortable in the body they were born in. their brain matches their body, matches their genitalia, matches their chrome zoems. you know, that isn't my experience. and it's not other people's experience. we live in a very rigid binary culture, and not everybody fits into and that's okay. >> chaz bono, i appreciate you talking to us. >> thank you. >> watch my entire interview with chaz bono on our website at ac360.com. this weekend on cnn, the story of someone who on the outside seemed to have it all but battled long to fight a life-long. "her name was steve ben" premiering this weekend. homicide in hollenbeck. a remarkable breach giving gang members a new future. we'll talk to martin sheen. how the actor got involved with the battle to end the bloodshed
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in hollenbeck. a new development involving the dating game killer. >> number one, would you say hello to sheryl, please? >> we're going to have a great time together, sheryl. >> he thought of himself as a liddy killer when he appeared on the dating game. police think the number of victims might be higher than they imagined. they want your help to identify possible victims. we'll look at the case of pfizer, one of the largest drug companies in the world, if not the largest and allegations against them for fraud and what happened in this case and why it's important to you. we'll have the battle going on in texas over schools and what they can put into textbooks.
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still ahead, the dating game killer and his chilling past. police release hundreds of ph o photos found in the serial killer's storage locker. police want your help. first, stephanie elam has a "360 news and business bulletin." new jersey man with suspected ties to al qaeda is under investigation for low level maintenance work. 26-year-old sharif mob he worked as a laborer at plants in pennsylvania, new jersey and maryland between 2002 and 2008. the fbi is looking into whether mobley had access to any sensitive areas. he's currently in custody in yemen. harsh words today from secretary of state hillary clinton over israel ice plan to expand settlements in the disputed territory of east jerusalem. secretary clinton called the timing insulting. >> and the announcement of the settleles, the very day that the vice president was there, was insulting. i mean, it was just really a
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very unfortunate and difficult moment for everyone. the united states, our vice president who had, you know, gone to reassert america's strong support for israeli security and i regret deeply that that occurred and made that view known. toyota's facing its first consumer protection lawsuit over ongoing acceleration problems with its vehicles. the district attorney in orange county, california, accuses toyota of knowingly selling defective automobiles. the manufacturer faces 89 class action lawsuits. new york city cab drivers billed passengers out of more than $8 billion over the last two years. their scam to manually switch the meter it a higher rate so they could charge double for the trip. a new system requires passenger approval for any rate switch. i always thought they trick was
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to drive you three different ways around the city to get you to where you need to go. >> i'm still not sure how that plan worked. next on "360," keeping drug companies honest. fraud at the world's biggest pharmaceutical company. this is unbelievable. they're still in business, however, because they got special treatment. did the punishment fit the crime? are they simply too big to convict? homicide and hope in hollenbeck. one man's mission to end the cycle of violence there. we'll talk to actor and activist martin sheen about his support for this man. host: could switching to geico really save you 15% or more on car insurance? host: is ed "too tall" jones too tall? host: could switching to geico 15% or more on car insurance? host: does a ten-pound bag of flour make a really big biscuit?
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focus on the end game. now, as you know, obama has been turning up the heat in his health care speeches all week. two days ago he ordered a crackdown on waste and fraud. some estimates health care fraud adds billions to cost each year. tonight we're going to show you one example. an astonishing case that resulted in a record fine. did the punishment match the crime? is there anything to stop this company or other big drug companies from doing it again? we're keeping them honest. here's drew griffin. >> reporter: pfizer incorporated with 116,000 employees and revenues of $50 billion a year. it is the world's largest pharmaceutical company. that's why this news last fall sounded like a huge victory for the government and a huge loss for pfizer. >> the largest health care fraud settlement in the history of the department of justice. >> reporter: the government was building a case against pfizer
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for fraudulently marketing a drug. a painkiller called bextra. pfizer aggressively marketed it for uses and in doses not approved by the fda. >> they didn't just implicate pfizer. they actually identified and charged the senior managers who were responsible for the fraud. >> reporter: our investigation found another story. one that officials here at the department of justice downplayed on that day they declared victory. it's the story about the power major pharmaceutical companies have, even when they break the laws intended to protect patients. we're keeping them honest and we begin nine years ago. in 2001. when the fda approved bextra, but only for limited use and only for menstrual cramps and arthritis. even so, pfizer sales reps
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promoted it illegally for surgical pain in higher doses. usage the fda had rejected due to safety concerns. doctors responded. instead of prescribing, say, ibuprofen at pennies a pill they prescribed bextra at nearly $3 a pill for all kinds of unapproved use. >> sales were very good. >> reporter: he was a sales rep in columbus, ohio. he would later collect reward money that the federal government gives whistle blowers. did the sales rep know what they were doing was illegal? >> they said that the district manager approved it. they think it might not be legal, but if they don't make their numbers they're not going to keep their job anyway. >> reporter: it brought pfizer nearly $1 billion in profits.
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it cost us all because medicare, medicaid picked up the tab. a federal prosecutor in boston launched an investigation. if the company is able to push the product for the unapproved indication, then it makes a mockery, if you will, of the fda approval process. even though prosecutors said the illegal conduct was tolerated and encouraged by sales managers across the country, pfizer escaped the punish the. as giant banks on wall street were considered too big to fail, pfizer was considered too big to nail. why? a company convicted of major fraud would automatically be kicked out of medicare and medicaid. pfizer would no longer be allowed to bill any federal health programs for any of its products. it would be a corporate death sentence. >> if a company like pfizer is excluded from medicare and medicaid they're out of business. >> reporter: lewis morris, a top
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lawyer at the department of health and human services told us pfizer's collapse could leave thousands out of work. millions not getting their medications. >> we have to ask whether by excluding the company are we harming our patients? are we harming the beneficiaries who need these critical drugs? >> reporter: since shutting down pfizer was unthinkable pfizer and the feds cut the deal. here's how they did it. pfizer, located here in new york, owns a company named pharmacia corporation which owns another corporation, pharmacia upjohn llc. which in turns owns pharmacia and upjohn county corporated. what does pharmacia and upjohn company do? nothing. it's a shell created to be a legal shield for pfizer. in other words, if pfizer was at risk of being convicted the shell company would take the
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hit. think of it as the great, great grandson of the parent company. birthday? march 27th, 2007. just in time to plead guilty in a kickback case against the company pfizer had acquired a few years earlier. with that conviction, pharmacia and upjohn incorporated which never sold so much as a single pill was excluded from medicare. two years later when pfizer was in trouble with bextra, pharmacia and upjohn company incorporated, the shell company, stepped up again and pleaded guilty. it was like having an imaginary friend. an imaginary bad guy to take the rap. and pfizer, too big to nail, is still doing business with the federal government. >> it is true that if a company is created to take a criminal
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plea, but it's just the shell, the impact is minimal or nonexistent. >> reporter: did the punishment fit the crime? pfizer says yes. it paid nearly $1.2 billion in a criminal fine for bextra, the largest fine ever. it paid a billion dollars more to settle civil suits, although it denies wrongdoing on allegations it illegally prom e promoted other drugs. in all pfizer lost the equivalent of three months' profit. though mike, who spent a decade prosecuting largest drug companies in the country, isn't sure $2 billion is enough to make big farm ma clean up its act. >> i worry the incentives are so great, the money is so great, that that has maybe made it, dealing with us, department of justice, as just a cost of doing business. >> drew, what does pfizer have to say about all this? >> anothing on camera.
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after a lot of back and forth we got a phone conversation with the company's chief compliance officer. he told us pfizer takes full responsibility for illegally promoting beck stra. to prevent it from happening again, it sat up a leading-edge system, monitoring sales reps tracking sales and proactively looking for sales its people are illegally promoting these drugs. >> is pfizer doing this voluntarily? >> no, not all voluntarily. they had to sign what's called a corporate integrity agreement with department of health and human services. the executives at pfizer have to sign on the dotted line to say their company is going to comply with the law. >> i mean, you look at this thing. if pfizer is too big to fail and even the biggest fine is history is a few months' profit, what's going to stop it from illegally promoting other drugs? >> critics say, anderson, nothing. they think that this is really, even though it's a big, big fine, you know what, $2 billion, they say, look, it is a cost of doing business. even the prosecutor, until and
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unless somebody goes to prison, somebody high up goes to prison and/or the company is banned from selling drugs to medicare or medicaid, this activity, like it has in the past with so many other companies, will continue. >> drew. thanks. keeping them honest. thanks, drew. let us know what you think about this pfizer case. join the live chat at ac360.com. will texas end up changing what your child learns in school? doesn't matter where you live. social studies lessons may end up dropping mentions of thomas jefferson or a lot of mentions. the dating game bachelor and serial killer already convicted of five murders. now photos he took have been found in a storage locker. could they be other victims? police are asking for your help. (pouring rain)
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we've been bringing you stories all this week from hollenbeck division in los angeles, stories about gangs, violence they breed, lives they take. we went to hollenbeck five years ago. back then the death toll was higher. the killings, gang-related homicides are down. that wall of silence, that stop-snitching code that keeps murders from being solved remains. there is plenty of hope in hollenbeck. one man has dedicated his life to creating it.
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his name is father greg boyle, doing more than ending the bloodshed. he's giving gang members a future. somehow richard moya has survived the gangs of hollenbeck, but as he'll tell you, it's day-by-day. where did you get shot? >> i got shot on the block where i'm at right now, and i took a bullet of a .45 underneath my heart and i was just thankful -- >> right under your heart? >> yes, sir. >> reporter: moya claims he was simply the victim of a random drive-by shooting. what's that scar? >> that scarfs from the first time i got shot which was five times. >> reporter: you've been shot six times total? >> yes. >> reporter: wow. you're 32 years old? >> 32 years old. >> reporter: and you've been shot six times? >> six times. >> reporter: does that make you really lucky or really unlucky? >> i would say for the fact unlucky that i have to deal with the pain, but lucky i'm alive
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today. >> reporter: moya's alive today thanks in large part to this man. >> are you on probation or parole? >> reporter: father greg boyle. >> you are? >> reporter: we first met father boyle five years ago at home boy industries, a company he started at helps young men transition out of gang life. i remember something you said to me five years ago that i've repeated to so many people i can't even count, which was that i asked you if you ever felt taken advantaged of. do people take advantage of you? you said you give your advantage away. i think that's a great -- i sure use that in my own life. >> i think people are always kind of cynical about they don't want to be used, and that happens if you're kind of stingy about what you have. rather than live in a way that's more abundant and where you're giving your advantage all the time. this place wants to give its
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advantage, wants to give its resources. >> reporter: homeboy industries offers troubled young men counseling and job training. they have a host of social programs even including gang tattoo removal. in the last five years father boyle has expanded homeboy industries into a multimillion-dollar facility near downtown los angeles. it's allowed him to reach out to more young people at risk. >> okay. all right. >> reporter: and do you still never write anybody off? >> yeah, i think this place is soaked with a sense of redemption so you really -- because i found -- >> like it's soaked with a soak of redemption. >> it really is soaked with it. i have several of them, who not that you write off, but in your head you toy with the idea that i'm not sure he's ever going to be able to steer this thing in another direction and lo and behold they do. >> reporter: richard moya started heading the wrong direction from the time he was young. >> my dad was in a gang and i
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witnessed and encountered his murder right in front of me at 5 years old. >> reporter: he was shot to death in front of you? >> shot to death by a rival gang. >> reporter: do you remember it in. >> i remember it to this day. he was shot exiting our house getting into the car. when we were waiting for him to exit the house another person approaching shot him straight in his forehead. >> reporter: seeing his father die didn't stop moya from getting involve in gangs. he joined one when he was 13. when we first met moya five years ago he'd already been shot and imprisoned. instead of writing moya off, however, father boyle hired him. >> how can i help you today? >> reporter: is his struggle emblematic of the difficulty of getting out of gang life? >> i think she's been far out of gang life. he's also somebody who's been deeply tram tized in his own history and it's difficult for him to make long strides. he has to kind of do little short hops. >> reporter: those short hops
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aren't easy. moya has four sons he's not allowed to see and struggles to earn a living every day washing cars and recycling. last year he barely survived a drive-by shooting. richard moya says he joined the gang for the same reasons so many others do. to earn respect. now he says none of it makes sense any more. >> people used to go around and get respect because you either boxed somebody or you stabbed that person. bottom line. ten of your homeboys, meet ten of our homeboys, let's go, right now at the park. and that's it. you got your respect. hey, watch out for that bad boy, man. he can really swing them. that's the respect. >> reporter: seeking that kind of respect, however, led him to prison. >> what made me actually just stop gang banging completely is you have gangsters that were your enemies that you used to shoot or stab or box or fight and those are the people that are your sallys. those are the people that got your back in prison when you're doing a term. if you could become buddies like
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that in there and forgive and all that, why can't i forgive the person that shot me? >> how are you doing? >> reporter: forgiveness instead of revenge. that's precisely why father boyle is convinced long-term treatment at homeboy industries is a worthy investment. a model, he says, that saves thousands of lives. that's what gang life is a result of a lethal absence of hope? >> it's about a lethal absence of hope. that's fundamentally where this rests always. >> reporter: curtailing gangs means replacing that absence with hope. it's that simple and that complicated, says boyle. do you think you'll make it to 40? >> you know, that's a good question and i'll tell you right now, i see a lot of people that makes me admire them to see
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their age at 40. i can't make no promises, but the only thing is i hope my sons see me before 40. i really do. >> let's hope he makes it. actor and activist martin sheen is a friend of father boyle and provided narration for the documentary "father gene the homeboys." they joined me earlier. mr. sheen, what was it that got you involved with father boyle? what is it about him that drew you to homeboy industries? >> well, his great courage and his great sense of love and being undeterred by unbelievable odds. you know, he brought together a community as well as so many of these young people who were involved in gangs. he understood the central
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element with the success of gangs. and that is it is a family. however dysfunctional, but it takes over for what all of these kids generally have missed in their families. so he has created a family where they can come together and what is really extraordinary is how gang members from rival gangs interact together. really this is the only place that that happens. >> i was there five years ago. i was there a couple weeks ago. i was also there five years ago interviewing father boyle. at the time some of the local police officers looked on him with suspicion and felt sometimes he was being taken advantage of. he said something to me i've never forgotten in the last five years. i said, do you feel you are ever taken advantage of? he says he gives his advantage away. i think that's a powerful statement, the idea he gives it away freely and he gives people a second and a third and a fourth and a fifth chance if they mess up. >> yes, he does. yeah. yeah.
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he also gives them something that many of these young people have never experienced and that's unconditional love. that's really what makes all the difference. for a lot of them he is their father in a very real sense, but also a spiritual sense. so and for many of them he's the only adult they have ever truly related honestly with in their life and come to trust. >> he says a lot of people in gangs have what he calls a lethal absence of hope. what do you think it is he is able to do, or what do you think these young people are able to it that turned their lives around? >> yeah. i think he gives them, first of all, a safe environment and he gives them confidence that they are not what they are perceived to be by their fellow gang members or by the authorities or their teachers or anyone else. he sees them as very often unloved and lost young people who never really had a chance to grow in that love environment. so that i think makes all the
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difference. >> martin sheen, thank you very much again. i appreciate it. >> thank you very much, anderson. still ahead tonight, heated battle in texas that could find its way into your child's classroom, no matter where you live. a move to change what's in textbooks. rewriting textbooks to tone down what conservatives say is a lib rap bias. police have uncovered more than 100 photos he took of women and kids. their identities a mystery. police are wondering if they are the faces of more victims and they want your help. it has vitamin d, which emerging science suggests supports breast health, and more calcium for bone health. centrum silver ultra women's i want to fix up old houses. ♪ [ woman ] when i grow up, i want to take him on his first flight. i want to run a marathon. i'm going to work with kids. i'm going to own my own restaurant. when i grow up, i'm going to start a band.
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tonight the battle over what public schools should be teaching your kids. in texas today the state's board of education approved a new social studies curriculum that conservatives say is meant to correct for liberal bias among the teachers who initially drafted the standards. the vote came after days of charged debate. it's not the end of the story, however. more hearings and a final vote in may. because this is happening in texas don't think it may not apply to your child in another state. texas buys a lot of schoolbooks. what they want often influences textbooks across the country. tom foreman tonight has the "raw politics." >> reporter: anderson, this is about a basic question. what do we want in textbooks when we are teaching young people about this country?
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does it tilt liberal or conservative or stay in the middle? right now the battleground is texas. >> save our history! save it now! >> reporter: in austin, heated words. the state's school board is in hearings over the content of new textbooks and some conservative board members want it moved to the right. for example, since textbooks include sections on democratic president franklin roosevelt's new deal which expanded government they also want a favorable light shined on ronald reagan's vision of a smaller government and the political power surge by conservative groups. don mcleroy is leading the charge. >> what we have is the history profession, experts seem to have a left-wing tilt. >> reporter: more examples of what those board members have wanted? out. too much talk about thomas jefferson and the enlightenment which stressed reasoning and science over faith. in. more recognition of the
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contributions of religious leaders like moses to american ideals. out. calling the u.s. government democratic, like the party. in. calling it a constitutional republic. out. capitalism which some board members fear has been turned into a dirty word. in. free enterprise. and on it goes with these board members wanting more praise for conservative icons like fill la schlafly. and even the cultural value of country music. not all of these measures have survived, but even the discussion has many more liberal texans furious. >> it's not fair for public school students to have the personal and political ideologies and agendas of the conservative state board members crammed down their throats and into their textbooks. >> reporter: all of this matters because there are almost 5 million students, texas buys a lot of textbooks and that helps push publishers in terms of what they make available for all the
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rest of us. electronic publishing is mitigating that factor just a little bit, but for the timebeing, as texas schools go, in large part so go the rest of the nation's schools and right now texas seems set on going to the right. andson? >> interesting. let us know what you think at ac 360.com. he's the dating game bachelor and serial killer. >> number one. >> yes? >> what's your best time? >> the best time is at night. nighttime. >> why do you say that? >> because that's the only time there is. >> that's the convicted murderer and these are the photographs he took. who are the people in these photographs, however? some could be, and police want to know, could some of them be his victims? authorities want to know. the story ahead. later, the ten americans accused of kidnapping 33 kids in haiti, some new charges tonight. the latest on the investigation when we continue. [ male announcer ] a good reputation
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crime & punishment tonight, new development as a serial killer. this is the murderer as he looked when he appeared on the
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dating game. question is, were any of them his victims in this week authorities released the photographs in their search to find out. stephanie elam reports. >> reporter: they look like innocent snapshots, but they have become haunting. unnerving. we don't know what happened to these women and girls. even whether they are dead or alive. authorities in california suspect they are photographs taken by rodney alcala. >> please welcome rodney alcala. >> reporter: a serial killer who appeared as a winning bachelor on the dating game. >> we're going to have a great time. >> reporter: who last month was convicted of murdering four women and a 12-year-old girl. a jury recommended the death sentence for his crimes. the orange county district attorney and huntington beach police department released the pictures to the public this week. they were found in a storage locker used by alcala. in a statement the prosecutors said we balance the privacy
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concerns of those depikted in the decision to release these pictures. although we hope the people depicted are not victims we believe the release may help solve cold cases and bring closures to victims' families. criminal profiler pat brown says there may be other victims. >> when you have a serial killer you never know his final number. we get them for what we get them for, what we have evidence for. there are always those ones he could have simply gotten away with, there was no evidence at the crime scene, nothing to link him back to that victim. we always have to keep our eye open for the possibility there are more out there. >> reporter: acalaa, now 66, portrayed himself as a charming photographer on the dating game. >> well, they're okay, but nighttime is when it really gets good. >> reporter: he won the date, but reportedly the woman refused to go out with him and jedd mills, who as bachelor number two sat next to acala, bristles. >> he was trying to be smiley and friendly at the same time,
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not giving you a chance to speak when he was speaking. >> a serial killer and psychopath cannot stay having a great act all the time, 24 hours a day. what happens is he can do it for a little bit. then he becomes creepy again and people say something's wrong with that guy. >> reporter: the district's attorney office told cnn it's likely he murdered more than five people. prosecutors say he kept the earrings of the 12-year-old girl he's convicted of murdering. they were found in a storage locker he rented. along with the photographs. stephanie elam, cnn, new york. today police said two of the women in the photographs released to the public this week have been identified and are alive and investigating the cases of up to five people in the photos who may be mising. if you have information, call huntington police department, 714-536-5947. or 714. 347-8492. time now for a "360" bulletin. stephanie elam joins us for that. anderson, the death of actor corey haim is linked to an
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illegal and massive prescription drug ring. that's according to california attorney jerry brown. his office launched an investigation into how the former child star got prescription drugs. the associated press is reporting haim had a fraudulent prescription when he died on wednesday in los angeles. the ten americans accused of kidnapping 33 haitian children each face a new charge. organizing irregular travel. none of the americans have been released. the tenth, their leader, is being held in port-au-prince. it will be up to a judge to decide if all of them should face trial. and jay leno is back at number one in the fight for late-night viewers. the "tonight show" topped david letterman since its relaunch march 1st. in the past few days the margin of victory has shrunk. that old newness wares off after time. >> yeah. this morning i was filling in for regis. guy from the food network stopped by. host of the new show, "minute to
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win it." face the cookie, where kelly and i had 60 seconds to move as many foreheads from our heads to our mouths. it was kind of fun. we've made it tonight's "shot." take a look. >> go. >> you can do it kell. there you go. there you go. she's killing you over here. she's killing you over here. come on. there you go. oh, close.
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what the -- oh! five, four, three, two, one. >> so there you have it. i won. >> you did the cool eyebrow action. you do this and wiggle them on down to your mouth. >> very good. >> i might have done well in that competition. >> yeah. it's fun. it's the game obviously one can play at home. we thought maybe on monday we might have the crew do it. we thought if you at home want to try it and, you know, videotape yourself doing it, maybe send us the pictures on the -- or the video on monday let us know how you did it. >> make a fool of yourself. >> remember, 60 seconds, as many cookies from the head to the mouth. not too hard. stephanie, thanks for being with us all week.
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tonight the "big 360
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interview." chaz bono was born chastity bono, daughter of sonny & cher. one year ago chaz began hormone therapy, this fall had surgery. tonight in a rare interview he talks about life as a man and transformation that has changed his gender. also tonight, a braising case of health care fraud at the world's largest pharmaceutical company. if a person had done what this company did they would have locked him up and thrown away the key. as you're about to see, when you're a multibillion-dollar company you get special treatment. we're "keeping them honest." later, a battle in texas to rewrite history. conservatives say school textbooks are too liberal. they've nixed thomas jefferson. what else will go? first up, an amazing trans f transformati transformation. susan stanton was on larry king talking about her transition from male to female. tonight, another transformation that can one year ago for chaz bono. who was born chastity. in the 1970s chastity appeared with her parents sonny & cher on stage. chastity is back in the spotlight, this time as chaz. tonight my interview with chaz
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bono. first, though, gary tuchman takes an up close look at the transformation. >> reporter: today his name is chaz bono. but back then she was chastity bono. not just her parent's sweetheart, but an american sweetheart. ♪ babe, i got you babe >> reporter: sonny & cher's show was a hit for years. their daughter's appearances weren't just cute. they were often funny. >> you can be a good little angel or you can be a naughty little devil. >> i want to be a naughty. >> when you saw little chastity on the "sonny & cher show" she was the model of cuteness. here's this toe-headed little blond, chubby cheek girl brought on stage. mom and dad are singing. you know, the model of the happy showbiz family. >> reporter: as years went by chastity bono went through personal turmoil. at the age of 18 she told her parents she was a lesbian. her mom who has always been very
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popular with gay audiences, surprisingly to many took the news very poorly. cher ultimately appeared on the cover of a gay and lesbian magazine called "the advocate" declaring she was the proud mother of a lesbian daughter. sonny became a republican congressman from california and in 1998 died in a skiing accident. his daughter was at his funeral. >> at the time sonny died in the ski accident chaz, then chastity, was estranged from him. their differences were political, not personal. it was because of sonny's stance on certain gay issues. ironically, sonny seemed to be much more comfortable with chastity when she came out, seemed to on a personal level be able to be much more accepting of it than cher was. ♪ >> reporter: over the years she sang and wrote music for a rock band called ceremony. she has also written two books. then in 2009 she began the process of gender transition. >> chaz has given very little specific information about the
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actual procedure. we know that he's had a mastectomy. we know been taking the proper hormones, know he had a hysterectomy for unrelated reasons in the past, know that he's living completely as a man. know he started shaving for the first time. >> reporter: chaz bono says he feels happiness and a sense of peace. his life evolving over the years far more dramatically than most. gary tuchman, cnn, atlanta. >> the first half of my interview with chaz aired last night. watch it on our website at ac360.com. here's part two of the "big 360 interview." you say this has been a long journey. when did you -- a lot of transgendered people who i've talked to have said from the earliest memories they had some of these feelings. when did you start to think, wait a minute, there's something else going on here? >> well, really as far back as i have memory i felt there was something different about me and
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i, you know, felt like one of the guys. i mean, my friends were all boys when i was little and i just felt like one of them. and then, you know, when puberty hits it gets really confusing and, you know, for me i just, at that point, you know, realized i had a physical attraction to women and just kind of, you know, went with the obvious i must be a lesbian and a took quite a number of years to realize, you know, that wasn't the case. that, in fact, i was transgendered. >> and gender identity has nothing to do with sexuality. >> no, not at all. nothing whatsoever. >> i think a lot of people equate the two, but i mean, while you had attractions to women, you were -- and you're now dating a woman. it's as a man. so you would no longer say, obviously, that you're lesbian. you would say that you're transgender male, male heterosexual, correct?
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>> absolutely. yes. yeah. the two really don't have anything to do with each other. there are transgendered people who are heterosexual. there are transgendered people who are gay, bisexual, everything. the two really don't -- they're two very separate, separate issues. >> we're going to have more with my interview with chaz bono in a moment. join the live chat at ac360.com. also ahead tonight, what happened in texas today that could change what your child learns at school no matter where you live. the raw politics in the classroom coming up.
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more now with my conversation with chaz bono. a lot of people remember him as chastity bono, the little girl who shared the stage with her famous parents sonny & cher. a year ago chastity became chaz. in the conclusion of our interview chaz talked about the transformation and his life-long quest for authenticity. there has got to be a ton of challenges. what has been the most difficult part of this transition?
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>> you know, the difficult part of transitioning was all the work i had to do beforehand to get comfortable enough to start my transition. knowing that there was no way i would be able to take this journey privately. and so, you know, it took me, i think, longer than a lot of people to get comfortable enough with myself and feel comfortable enough with the people in my life to be able to do this in the public eye. >> that's got to be a whole other level of concern. i mean, most people who make this transition don't have that -- that's not part of the equation. do you plan to continue more? i mean, with transitioning? is there more for you to do? i mean, a lot of people don't decide -- they stop with top surgery. a lot of people transition from female to male. >> exactly. there's no, you know, there's no
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kind of, like, necessary finish line or you don't get the spike, you know, the touch the ball in the end zone. it's just, i will be on male hormones for the rest of my life and, you know, i will continue to kind of masculinize as time goes on. again, it's been a fairly short period of time and, you know, the whole process is really about four or five years that you're, you know, changing in significant ways. and, you know, as far as, you know, any bottom surgery, that's something that i don't really feel comfortable talking about. >> what do you want people to know? i mean, a lot of people i know who have transitioned kind of want to blend in or pass and not be a transgendered activist or not be known as a transgender male or transgender female. obviously you're in the public eye. you didn't have that choice, but what do you want people to know?
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>> man, you know, i don't -- i don't know what exactly i want. i mean, look, i've been an activist within the lgbt community for a long time. what i want is equal rights and what i want is for people to understand that though there are, you know, some difference, you know, that's okay. diversity is something that's a part of nature and, you know, there is nothing wrong with this. you know, the thing that's frustrating is people who judge this issue is people who don't have -- have it. these are people who feel comfortable in the body they were born in. their brain matches their body, matches their genitalia, matches their chromosomes. you know, that isn't my experience. and it's not other people's experience. we live in a really rigid, binary culture, and not everybody fits into that and that's okay. >> chaz bono, i appreciate you talking to us. thanks so much. >> thank you.
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>> watch my entire interview with chaz bono on our website at ac360.com. reminder, this weekend on cnn, the story of someone who on the outside seemed to have it all but battled hard to hide a life-long inner struggle with gender identity. cnn follows her transformation from male to female. "her name was steven" premiering this weekend. homicide in hollenbeck. meet a remarkable priest giving former back members a new future. we'll talk to martin sheen. how the actor got involved with the battle to end the bloodshed in hollenbeck. plus a disturbing new development involving the dating game killer. >> number one, would you say hello to sheryl, please? >> we're going to have a great time together, sheryl. >> he thought of himself as a lady killer when he appeared on the dating game. turned out he actually was. police think the number of victims might be higher than they imagined. they want your help to identify possible victims. we'll look at the case of pfizer, one of the largest drug companies in the world, if not the largest and allegations
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against them for fraud and what happened in this case and why it's important to you. we'll have the battle going on in texas over schools and what they can put into textbooks.
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still ahead, the dating game killer and his chilling past. police release hundreds of photos found in the serial killer's storage locker. could these be the faces of his other victims? police want your help. first, stephanie elam has a "360 news and business bulletin." stephanie? new jersey man with suspected ties to al qaeda is under investigation for low-level maintenance work. he performed at five nuclear power plants. 26-year-old sharif mobley worked as a laborer at plants in pennsylvania, new jersey and maryland between 2002 and 2008. the fbi is looking into whether mobley had access to any sensitive areas. he's currently in custody in yemen. harsh words today from secretary of state hillary clinton over israel's plan to expand settlements in the
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disrupted territory -- or disputed territory of east jerusalem. secretary clinton called the times of the announcement insulting. >> and the announcement of the settlements, the very day that the vice president was there, was insulting. i mean, it was just really a very unfortunate and difficult moment for everyone. the united states, our vice president who had, you know, gone to reassert america's strong support for israeli security and i regret deeply that that occurred and made that view known. toyota's facing its first consumer protection lawsuit over ongoing acceleration problems with its vehicles. the district attorney in orange county, california, accuses toyota of knowingly selling defective automobiles. the manufacturer faces 89 class action lawsuits. as well. a new report finds new york
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city cab drivers billed passengers out of more than $8 million over the last two years. their scam to manually switch the meter it a higher rate so they could charge double for the trip. a new system requires passenger approval for any rate switch. i always thought they trick was to drive you three different ways around the city to get you to where you need to go. >> i'm still not sure how that plan worked. anyway, i'd like to see that one. next on "360," keeping drug companies honest. fraud at the world's biggest pharmaceutical company. this is unbelievable. they're still in business, however, because they got special treatment. did the punishment fit the crime? are they simply too big to convict? also tonight, homicide and hope in hollenbeck. one man's mission to end the cycle of violence there. we'll talk to actor and activist martin sheen about his support for this man. unk left by lower quality gasoline. then they act as a protective barrier... that shields and protects engines... against performance-robbing gunk. thanks for the info! shell nitrogen enriched gasoline, helping you get the most out of every drop.
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tonight keeping drug companies honest. a story that simply stunning about multimillion-dollar profits and illegal activity about this country's biggest drug company. we're bringing you the story because the battle over health care reform is nearing its end.
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congressional leaders are planning a final push to a vote next week. president obama has postponed a trip to asia to focus on the end game. presumably he'll be twisting elbows as democrats try to nail down the votes they need. now, as you know, obama has been turning up the heat in his health care speeches all week. two days ago he ordered a crackdown on waste and fraud. some estimates health care fraud adds billions to cost each year. tonight we're going to show you one example. an astonishing case that resulted in a record fine. did the punishment match the crime? is there anything to stop this company or other big drug companies from doing it again? we're "keeping them honest." here's drew griffin. >> reporter: pfizer incorporated with 116,000 employees and revenues of $50 billion a year. it is the world's largest pharmaceutical company. that's why this news last fall sounded like a huge victory for the government and a huge loss for pfizer. >> the largest health care fraud settlement in the history of the department of justice.
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>> reporter: the government was building a case against pfizer for fraudulently marketing a drug. that had raked in hundreds of millions of dollars in profits. a painkiller called bextra. pfizer aggressively marketed it for uses and in doses not approved by the fda. >> they didn't just implicate pfizer. they actually identified and charged the senior managers who were responsible for the fraud. >> reporter: our investigation found another story. one that officials here at the department of justice downplayed on that day they declared victory. it's the story about the power major pharmaceutical companies have, even when they break the laws intended to protect patients. we're keeping them honest and we begin nine years ago. in 2001. when the fda approved bextra, but only for limited use and only for menstrual cramps and
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arthritis. even so, pfizer sales reps promoted it illegally for surgical pain in higher doses. usage the fda had rejected due to safety concerns. doctors responded. instead of prescribing, say, ibuprofen at pennies a pill they prescribed bextra at nearly $3 a pill for all kinds of unapproved use. >> sales were very good. >> reporter: glen dumont was a sales rep in columbus, ohio. he would later collect reward money that the federal government gives whistleblowers. did the sales rep know what they were doing was illegal? >> they said that the district manager approved it. they think it might not be legal, but if they don't make their numbers they're not going to keep their job anyway. >> reporter: it brought pfizer nearly $1 billion in profits.
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it cost us all because medicare, medicaid picked up the tab. a federal prosecutor in boston launched an investigation. >> if the company is able to push the product for the unapproved indication, then it makes a mockery, if you will, of the fda approval process. >> reporter: even though prosecutors said the illegal conduct was tolerated and encouraged by sales managers across the country, pfizer escaped the punishment. as giant banks on wall street were considered too big to fail, pfizer was considered too big to nail. why? a company convicted of major fraud would automatically be kicked out of medicare and medicaid. pfizer would no longer be allowed to bill any federal health programs for any of its products. it would be a corporate death sentence. >> if a company like pfizer is excluded from medicare and medicaid they're out of
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business. >> reporter: lewis morris, a top lawyer at the department of health and human services told us pfizer's collapse could leave thousands out of work. millions not getting their medications. >> we have to ask whether by excluding the company are we harming our patients? are we harming the beneficiaries who need these critical drugs? >> reporter: since shutting down pfizer was unthinkable pfizer and the feds cut a deal. here's how they did it. pfizer, located here in new york, owns a company named pharmacia corporation which owns another company called pharmacia and upjohn llc which owns pharmacia and upjohn company llc which in turn owns pharmacia and upjohn company incorporated. what does fapharmacia and upjoh company do? nothing. it's a shell created to be a legal shield for pfizer. in other words, if pfizer was at
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risk of being convicted the shell company would take the hit. think of it as the great-great grandson of the parent company. birthday? march 27th, 2007. just in time to plead guilty in a kickback case against the company pfizer had acquired a few years earlier. with that conviction, pharmacia and upjohn company incorporated which had never sold so much as a single pill, was excluded from medicare. two years later when pfizer was in trouble with bextra, pharmacia and upjohn company incorporated, the shell company, stepped up again and pleaded guilty. it was like having an imaginary friend. an imaginary bad guy to take the rap. and pfizer, too big to nail, is still doing business with the federal government. >> it is true that if a company
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is created to take a criminal plea, but it's just the shell, the impact of an exclusion is minimal or nonexistent. >> reporter: did the punishment fit the crime? pfizer says yes. it paid nearly $1.2 billion in a criminal fine for bextra, the largest fine ever. it paid a billion dollars more to settle civil suits, although it denies wrongdoing on allegations it illegally promoted 12 other drugs. in all pfizer lost the equivalent of three months' profit. but even mike who spent more than a decade prosecuting some of the larmest drug companies in the country isn't sure that $2 billion is enough to make big phrma clean up its act. >> i worry the incentives are so great, the money is so great, that that has maybe made it, dealing with us, department of justice, as just a cost of doing business. >> drew, what does pfizer have
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to say about all this? >> anderson, nothing on camera. after a lot of back and forth we got a phone conversation with the company's chief compliance officer. he told us pfizer takes full responsibility for illegally promoting bextra. to prevent it from happening again, here's what pfizer said it's done. it set up a leading-edge system. it monitors sales reps tracking prescription sales and proactively looking for signs that its people are illegally promoting these drugs. >> is pfizer doing this voluntarily? >> no, not all voluntarily. they had to sign what's called a corporate integrity agreement with department of health and human services. basically the executives at pfizer have to sign on the dotted line to say their company is going to comply with the law. >> i mean, you look at this thing. if pfizer is too big to fail and even the biggest fine is history is a few months' profit, what's going to stop it from illegally promoting other drugs? >> critics say, anderson, nothing. they think that this is really, even though it's a big, big fine, you know what, $2 billion,
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they say, look, it is a cost of doing business. even the prosecutor, until and unless somebody goes to prison, somebody high up goes to prison and/or the company is banned from selling drugs to medicare or medicaid, this activity, like it has in the past with so many other companies, will continue. >> drew. thanks. "keeping them honest." thanks, drew. let us know what you think about this pfizer case. join the live chat at ac360.com. up next, will texas end up changing what your child learns in school? doesn't matter where you live. social studies lessons may end up dropping mentions of thomas jefferson or a lot of mentions. the battle to rewrite history ahead. the dating game bachelor and serial killer already convicted of five murders. now photos he took have been found in a storage locker. could they be other victims? police are asking for your help. the world's first hybrid sedan powered by a compact lithium-ion battery? what drives us to create a hydrogen electric car that emits only water? and to build a vehicle
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that earned the world green car award. and to engineer bluetec, the world's cleanest diesel technology. what drives us is the desire to create not only the best cars in the world, but for it. announcing the s400 hybrid. a cleaner, safer future is what drives us.
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we've been bringing you stories all this week from hollenbeck division in los angeles, stories about gangs, violence they breed, lives they take. we went to hollenbeck five years ago. back then the death toll was higher. the killings, gang-related homicides are down. that wall of silence, that stop-snitching code that keeps murders from being solved remains. you should know, however, there is plenty of hope in hollenbeck. one man has dedicated his life to creating it. his name is father greg boyle, doing more than ending the bloodshed. he's giving gang members a future. somehow richard moya has survived the gangs of hollenbeck, but as he'll tell you, it's day-by-day. where did you get shot? >> i got shot on the block where i'm at right now, and i took a
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bullet of a .45 underneath my heart and i was just thankful -- >> right under your heart? >> yes, sir. >> reporter: moya claims he was simply the victim of a random drive-by shooting. what's that scar? >> that scarfs from the first time i got shot which was five times. >> reporter: you've been shot six times total? >> yes. >> reporter: wow. you're 32 years old? >> 32 years old. >> reporter: and you've been shot six times? >> six times. >> reporter: does that make you really lucky or really unlucky? >> i would say for the fact unlucky that i have to deal with the pain, but lucky i'm alive today. >> reporter: moya's alive today thanks in large part to this man. >> are you on probation or parole? >> reporter: father greg boyle. >> you are? >> reporter: we first met father boyle five years ago at homeboy industries, a company he started that helps young men transition out of gang life. i remember something you said to
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me five years ago that i've repeated to so many people i can't even count, which was that i asked you if you ever felt taken advantaged of. do people take advantage of you? you said you give your advantage away. i think that's a great -- i sure use that in my own life. >> i think people are always kind of cynical about they don't want to be used, and that happens if you're kind of stingy about what you have. rather than live in a way that's more abundant and where you're giving your advantage all the time. this place wants to give its advantage, wants to give its resources. >> reporter: homeboy industries offers troubled young men counseling and job training. they have a host of social programs even including gang tattoo removal. in the last five years father boyle has expanded homeboy industries into a multimillion-dollar facility near downtown los angeles. it's allowed him to reach out to more young people at risk.
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>> okay. all right. >> reporter: and do you still never write anybody off? >> yeah, i think this place is soaked with a sense of redemption so you really -- because i found -- >> like it's soaked with a soak of redemption. >> it really is soaked with it. i have several of them, who not that you write off, but in your head you toy with the idea that i'm not sure he's ever going to be able to steer this thing in another direction and lo and behold they do. >> reporter: richard moya started heading the wrong direction from the time he was young. >> my dad was in a gang and i witnessed and encountered his murder right in front of me at 5 years old. >> reporter: he was shot to death in front of you? >> shot to death by a rival gang. >> reporter: do you remember it? >> i remember it to this day. he was shot exiting our house getting into the car. when we were waiting for him to exit the house another person approaching shot him straight in his forehead. >> reporter: seeing his father die didn't stop moya from getting involve in gangs. he joined one when he was 13.
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when we first met moya five years ago he'd already been shot and imprisoned. instead of writing moya off, however, father boyle hired him. >> good afternoon, homeboy industry. richard speaking. how can i help you today? >> reporter: is his struggle emblematic of the difficulty of getting out of gang life? >> i think she's been far out of gang life. he's also somebody who's been deeply traumatized in his own history and it's difficult for him to make long strides. he has to kind of do little short hops. >> reporter: those short hops aren't easy. moya has four sons he's not allowed to see and struggles to earn a living every day washing cars and recycling. last year he barely survived a drive-by shooting. richard moya says he joined the gang for the same reasons so many others do. to earn respect. now he says none of it makes sense any more. >> people used to go around and get respect because you either boxed somebody or you stabbed that person. bottom line.
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ten of your homeboys, meet ten of our homeboys, let's go, right now at the park. and that's it. you got your respect. hey, watch out for that bad boy, man. he can really swing them. watch out for that cat, dog, because he'll really stab you. that's the respect. >> reporter: seeking that kind of respect, however, led him to prison. >> what made me actually just stop gang banging completely is you have gangsters that were your enemies that you used to shoot or stab or box or fight and those are the people that are your sallys. those are the people that got your back in prison when you're doing a term. if you could become buddies like that in there and forgive and all that, why can't i forgive the person that shot me? >> how are you doing, big bro? >> reporter: forgiveness instead of revenge. that's precisely why father boyle is convinced long-term treatment at homeboy industries is a worthy investment. a model, he says, that saves thousands of lives. that's what gang life is a result of a lethal absence of hope? >> it's about a lethal absence
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of hope. that's fundamentally where this rests always. >> reporter: curtailing gangs means replacing that absence with hope. it's that simple and that complicated, says boyle. do you think you'll make it to 40? >> you know, that's a good question and i'll tell you right now, i see a lot of people that makes me admire them to see their age at 40. i can't make no promises, but the only thing is i hope my sons see me before 40. i really do. >> let's hope he makes it. actor and activist martin sheen is a friend of father boyle and provided narration for the documentary "father gene the
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homeboys." people from martin sheen's homeboys industry joined me earlier. mr. sheen, what was it that got you involved with father boyle? what is it about him that drew you to homeboy industries? >> well, his great courage and his great sense of love and being undeterred by unbelievable odds. you know, he brought together a community as well as so many of these young people who were involved in gangs. he understood the central element with the success of gangs. and that is it is a family. however dysfunctional, but it takes over for what all of these kids generally have missed in their families. so he has created a family where they can come together and what is really extraordinary is how gang members from rival gangs interact together. really this is the only place that that happens. >> i was there five years ago. i was there a couple weeks ago. i was also there five years ago
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interviewing father boyle. at the time some of the local police officers looked on him with suspicion and felt sometimes he was being taken advantage of. i asked father boyle about that. he said something to me which i've never forgotten in the last five years. i said, do you feel you are ever taken advantage of? he says he gives his advantage away. i think that's a powerful statement, the idea he gives it away freely and he gives people a second and a third and a fourth and a fifth chance if they mess up. >> yes, he does. yeah. yeah. he also gives them something that many of these young people have never experienced and that's unconditional love. that's really what makes all the difference. for a lot of them he is their father in a very real sense, but also a spiritual sense. so and for many of them he's the only adult they have ever truly related honestly with in their life and come to trust. >> he says a lot of people in gangs have what he calls a lethal absence of hope.
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what do you think it is he is able to do, or what do you think these young people are able to do that turns their lives around? >> yeah. i think he gives them, first of all, a safe environment and he gives them confidence that they are not what they are perceived to be by their fellow gang members or by the authorities or their teachers or anyone else. he sees them as very often unloved and lost young people who never really had a chance to grow in that love environment. so that i think makes all the difference. >> martin sheen, thank you very much again. i appreciate it. >> thank you very much, anderson. still ahead tonight, heated battle in texas that could find its way into your child's classroom, no matter where you live. a move to change what's in textbooks. rewriting history to tone down what conservatives say is a liberal bias. police have uncovered more
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tonight the battle over what public schools should be teaching your kids. in texas today the state's board of education approved a new social studies curriculum that conservatives say is meant to correct for liberal bias among the teachers who initially drafted the standards. the vote came after days of charged debate. it's not the end of the story, however. more hearings and a final vote in may. because this is happening in texas don't think it may not apply to your child in another state. texas buys a lot of schoolbooks. what they want often influences textbooks across the country. tom foreman tonight has the "raw politics." >> reporter: anderson, this is about a basic question. what do we want in textbooks when we are teaching young
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people about this country? does it tilt liberal or conservative or stay in the middle? right now the battleground is texas. >> save our history! save it now! >> reporter: in austin, heated words. the state's school board is in hearings over the content of new textbooks and some conservative board members want it moved to the right. for example, since textbooks include sections on democratic president franklin roosevelt's new deal which expanded government they also want a favorable light shined on ronald reagan's vision of a smaller government and the political power surge by conservative groups. don mcleroy is leading the charge. >> what we have is the history profession, experts seem to have a left-wing tilt. so what we were doing was trying to restore balance to those. >> reporter: more examples of what those board members have wanted? out. too much talk about thomas jefferson and the enlightenment which stressed reasoning and science over faith. in.
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more recognition of the contributions of religious leaders like moses to american ideals. out. calling the u.s. government democratic, like the party. in. calling it a constitutional republic. out. capitalism which some board members fear has been turned into a dirty word. in. free enterprise. and on it goes with these board members wanting more praise for conservative icons like phyllis schlafly. the leadership qualities of confederate general stonewall jackson. and even the cultural value of country music. not all of these measures have survived, but even the discussion has many more liberal texans furious. >> it's not fair for public school students to have the personal and political ideologies and agendas of the conservative state board members crammed down their throats and into their textbooks. >> reporter: all of this matters because there are almost 5 million students, texas buys a lot of textbooks and that helps push publishers in terms of what
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they make available for all the rest of us. electronic publishing is mitigating that factor just a little bit, but for the time being, as texas schools go, in large part so go the rest of the nation's schools and right now texas seems set on going to the right. anderson? >> interesting. let us know what you think at ac360.com. coming up next on the program, the dating game bachelor and serial killer. >> number one. >> yes? >> what's your best time? >> the best time is at night. nighttime. >> why do you say that? >> because that's the only time there is. >> that's the convicted murderer and these are the photographs he took. who are the people in these photographs, however? some could be, and police want to know, could some of them be his victims? authorities want to know. the story ahead. later, the ten americans accused of kidnapping 33 kids in haiti, some new charges tonight. the latest on the investigation when we continue.
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crime & punishment tonight, a disfushing new development about a serial killer. this is the murder as he appeared on the "dating game." he was a photographer back then and he took pictures of the young women and children. question is, were any of them his victims in this week authorities released the photographs in their search to find out. stephanie elam reports. >> reporter: they look like innocent snapshots, but they have become haunting. unnerving. we don't know what happened to these women and girls. even whether they are dead or alive. authorities in california suspect they are photographs taken by rodney alcala. >> please welcome rodney alcala. >> reporter: a serial killer who once appeared as winning bachelor on "the dating game." but who last month was convicted of murdering four women and a 12-year-old girl. a jury recommended the death sentence for his crimes. the orange county district attorney and huntington beach
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police department released the pictures to the public this week. they were found in a storage locker used by alcala. in a statement the prosecutors said we balance the privacy concerns of those depicted in the decision to release these pictures, although we hope that the people depicted are not victims, we believe that the release may help solve some cold cases and bring closures to victims' families. criminal profiler pat brown says there may be other victims. >> when you have a serial killer you never know his final number. we get them for what we get them for, what we have evidence for. there are always those ones he could have simply gotten away with, there was no evidence at the crime scene, nothing to link him back to that victim. we always have to keep our eye open for the possibility there are more out there. >> reporter: acalaa, now 66, portrayed himself as a charming photographer on "the dating game." >> well, they're okay, but nighttime is when it really gets good. >> reporter: he won the date, but reportedly the woman refused to go out with him and jedd
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mills, who as bachelor number two sat next to acala, bristles. at the encounter with the killer. >> i remember he was strange and obnoxious and imposing, and trying to be smiley and friendly at the same time and not giving you a chance to speak when he was speaking. >> a serial killer and psychopath cannot stay having a great act all the time, 24 hours a day. what happens is he can do it for a little bit. then he becomes creepy again and people say something's wrong with that guy. >> reporter: the district's attorney office told cnn it's likely he murdered more than five people. prosecutors say he kept the earrings of the 12-year-old girl he's convicted of murdering. they were found in a storage locker he rented. along with the photographs. stephanie elam, cnn, new york. today police said two of the women in the photographs released to the public this week have been identified and are alive. they also investigating the case of up to five people in the photos that may be missing. if you have any information to
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help with this case, call the huntington police department, 714-536-5947. or 714-347-8492. time now for a "360 bulletin." stephanie elam joins us for that. anderson, the death of actor corey haim is linked to an illegal and massive prescription drug ring. that's according to california attorney jerry brown. his office launched an investigation into how the former child star got prescription drugs. the associated press is reporting haim had a fraudulent prescription when he died on wednesday in los angeles. the ten americans accused of kidnapping 33 haitian children each face a new charge. organizing irregular travel. none of the americans have been released. the tenth, their leader, is being held in port-au-prince. it will be up to a judge to decide if all of them should face trial. and jay leno is back at number one in the fight for late-night viewers. the "tonight show" topped david letterman since its relaunch march 1st. in the past few days the margin of victory has shrunk.
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that old newness wares off after time. >> yeah. this morning i should point out i was filling in for regis on "regis and kelly." guy from the food network stopped by. host of the new show, "minute to win it." face the cookie, where kelly and i had 60 seconds to move as many foreheads from our heads to our mouths. it was absurd and ridiculous, but it was kind of fun. we've made it tonight's "shot." take a look. >> go. >> you can do it, kell. there you go. there you go. she's killing you over here. she's killing you over here. come on. there you go.
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oh, close. what the -- oh! five, four, three, two, one. >> so there you have it. i won. i was very proud of that. >> you did the cool eyebrow action. you do this and wiggle them on down to your mouth. >> very good. >> i might have done well in that competition. >> yeah. it's fun. it's the game obviously one can play at home. we thought maybe on monday we might have the crew do it. we thought if you at home want to try it and, you know, videotape yourself doing it, maybe send us the pictures on the -- or the video on monday let us know how you did it. we

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